What happens when you die?

[Frumens]

Hello occultists (aka mortals),

What do you think happens when you die? Where did you get this idea? Where do people even get ideas about this when most have never died themselves?

[Ramscha]

Well, first my lung and heart stop, after no blood goes into my brain the nerve cells start to die slowly. The rest of my body will follow that during the next days slowly burning the last reservoirs of energy and then dies. Microorganisms will start to make a pile of crap out of me, producing foul gases so that I smell like a bunch of flowers and look like a white balloon for some time.

That should be pretty much it.

But since I live at the moment I don´t have the desire to make senceless thoughts about a process which will come in one or the other way. It makes no sence for me wasting time where I live to think about what is with me when I am dying. There are so much more fun things to do like jumping on one leg through a casino.
When I die I will see it anyway (literally spoken).

See you guys, I will now look for a casino, it has to be here somewhere [devil]

Ramscha

[DawningSun777]

Hello occultists (aka mortals),

What do you think happens when you die? Where did you get this idea? Where do people even get ideas about this when most have never died themselves?

When I die my body will begin to breakdown until I am not even slightly recognizable. That which makes me, which has existed as all time, will go on existing while the exact processes that create "me" will be gone for the rest of linear, third dimensional time. It seems to me that most people get their beliefs from things they are taught or read in holy books. We can be relatively sure of what happens based on logical inference and scientific evidence, but the majority of people simply grasp at straws from a likely fear of death.

[Urscumug]

I'll be totally or partially recycled. I don't care, it's already difficult to focus on all life aspects so why lose time thinking on a more than hypothetical afterlife?

[Cybernetic_Jazz]

From the issue that started the whole ball of wax for me and turned me from an atheist-leaning Newtonian determinist agnostic to getting to stuff I really couldn't explain - really looking at the NDE stuff - was where the train from NDE to mediums, new age to deeper new age, then full read of bible and inventory of Christianity and on to occultism and now I'm freshly a postulant in two esoteric orders.

It's turning out to be increasingly less of a shocker that consciousness isn't local, while enough people having heart attacks who don't know about upturned targets on a ceiling and aren't bothering with them you have enough of the more Pim Van Lomel and Bruce Greyson type circumstantials brought up. I had to tie that out with a world full of 'miracles' and things I'd sort of brushed off simply because there was nothing I could do with them, it felt credulous to write if off as either delusion or as some even more cynically might put it 'fear of death'. Seems our plane is built on some incredibly complex rules, rules that really keep us 'here' and very much buried in either the here and now or in our own thoughts in such a way where it can be very tough for us to get a solid clue that there's anything more to our thoughts and dreams than a physical chunk of fat and tissue with chemicals zipping from synapse to synapse to create the whole experience. When people tell the average person that they 'feel' the Holy Spirit at church, that they astral projected while they were meditating, or that the local head neurologist now renowned Catholic faith healer cured them of some kind of limphoma or cataracts - it sits controversial and particularly so with what our education system and the talking heads of popular science will tell us all day long about 'what's real' and what purportedly isn't with the human condition.

If certain people have it right I should be able to say something on the topic, we all probably should if we've done it hundreds if not thousands of times each, just that wow - the upper astral of devachan must throw a heck of a going away party because prior to being born I can't remember shit. I'm kinda left to cross-analyze what the NDE'ers, psychics and mediums, Christian mystics and saints, Hindu and Buddhist teachers, various Hermetic qabalists of the 19th and early 20th century, and everyone in-between finds concurrence in. My gut instinct, I could be wrong, people don't really have the energy to keep something going and going and going on wishful thinking or 'fear of death', nor was there any kind of nod-nod wink-wink that I can see between Buddha, John of the Cross, Theresa of Avila, Plato, Pythagoras, Plotinus, Patanjali, Rudolph Steiner, Blavatski, Bailey, Crowley, Levi, Papus, Louise-Claude De Saint-Martin, Goeth, Immanuel Kant, that list could go and keep going all the way up to the talking heads of today ranging from incredibly high credibility and erudition to somewhat little.

The only thing I can say for certain is that everyone who experiences it (either from near death or meditating possibly hours a day for decades) would claim it to be realer-than-real, you'll probably at least feel like you have spherical vision in all directions, you'll probably see colors that aren't in the human eye pallet, you'll likely have knowledge hitting you at such a speed that instant knowing may replace thought - other than that, like a shamanic trip, sparing certain commonalities it seems like everyone has something a bit different which is why the question 'What happens when you die?' is a tough one to answer much further than that.

[DawningSun777]

I've experienced all manners of hallucinogenic mystical experiences much like NDEs, but that doesn't make me think they are "realer than real". Also, claiming that the idea of local consciousness is dying is simply a blatant lie . Not only have I never seen of an NDE that cannot be explained away but ALL evidence and inference suggests consciousness from the brain. Every little shred.

[smiles]

When you die... perhaps you join the great lifetide your frequency persisting as a current or morphogenetic field to continue resonating thru this world, blurring with similar frequencies, perhaps with such a drive or function that your pattern repeats quite similarly... perhaps when you die time stops and you live an eternal now maybe in your heaven or hell or something else... maybe as the holyguardianangel outside of time looking over the progress of your time-based existence tinkering away at the multiverse... maybe the illusion of 'you' exhausts itself.

[digigeek19]

I personally believe that When a person dies their soul goes through different challenges and is then reborn into this world with circumstances based on the life they led in the previous "life". The Life is then carried out normally until death where the soul regains memories of past lives, and is once again sent through trials and again sent back into this world until finally the soul has reached an enlightened state. Anything after this is beyond my speculations for now.