Original post: corbin_israfael
Manipulated? How? I am merely discussing...no manipulation is being done and if you think so then you are quite mistaken....
If I am not Shiva then what I am I? What is anything? Do you have these answers? Personally I know what I know...but that is not the point....it can be summed up in a few words from the far reaches of antiquity "Om Tat Sat Om"...
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P.S. I think I now see where you may have got the assumption that I was literally saying I was Shiva as in the god. If so then you must not know to much about literature as that was written from the point of veiw of the subject (IE Shiva) as in relation to the spiritual aspirant who comes to God-Realization.
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hmm well hinduism and easter traditions are not my speciality however i would like to say that any arguement undermining the ability of any female to initiate into a tradition is false Ceremonial magicians have the same problem and it is always hushed out, many people forget that the absloute is a conjoined principle of male and female, as much as in qabalah we see the highest name of the sphere kether is Elohim a feminine noun with a masculine plural fixed, thus we see that the divine is of both sexes,
also another point is the Law of Alternating Polarity, that is the female is NOT always negative and the male is not always positive,and their polarity alternate through the planes what is positive on a plane is negative on the other and vice versa,
the tantric arts feebly though i understand them i think depend on magnetism and the attraction between both genders, this magnetism is where the female is positive to the male and i cant see actually how can the male enhance his magnetism without shifting his polarity, or depending on a female,
the female on the other hand is the positive on the astral and matters of magnitism is easier for her, also a relation between a man and a woman is four quarters as it is always emotional and magnetic before anything else,
we can see that in western tradition, that chokmah has the female sphere netzach in the base of the pillar of mercy, some may argue that netzach is a hermaphrodite but we must know that in heramphrodites only one sex is really active however the actual representation may be,
wee see here the female representing the positive fullfilling archtype rather than the inert static one, thus i cant see why any female cant initiate herself into anyrtadtion of the mysteries and excel.
infact in tantric arts and other traditions that use the power of sexual acts either in physical level or other wise the female is the positive partener astrally and any wise one will know that unless he lives in the bottom of a cupboard or something,
i absloutely apologize for spamming things here with wester traditional talk but i thought as the topic attracts people i could have a go at the hypocritic sexism in western Ceremonial traditions.
-PS just to round it all the soul is fucking Bisexual it contains the roots of both.
hmm well hinduism and easter traditions are not my speciality however i would like to say that any arguement undermining the ability of any female to initiate into a tradition is false Ceremonial magicians have the same problem and it is always hushed out, many people forget that the absloute is a conjoined principle of male and female, as much as in qabalah we see the highest name of the sphere kether is Elohim a feminine noun with a masculine plural fixed, thus we see that the divine is of both sexes,
also another point is the Law of Alternating Polarity, that is the female is NOT always negative and the male is not always positive,and their polarity alternate through the planes what is positive on a plane is negative on the other and vice versa,
the tantric arts feebly though i understand them i think depend on magnetism and the attraction between both genders, this magnetism is where the female is positive to the male and i cant see actually how can the male enhance his magnetism without shifting his polarity, or depending on a female,
the female on the other hand is the positive on the astral and matters of magnitism is easier for her, also a relation between a man and a woman is four quarters as it is always emotional and magnetic before anything else,
we can see that in western tradition, that chokmah has the female sphere netzach in the base of the pillar of mercy, some may argue that netzach is a hermaphrodite but we must know that in heramphrodites only one sex is really active however the actual representation may be,
wee see here the female representing the positive fullfilling archtype rather than the inert static one, thus i cant see why any female cant initiate herself into anyrtadtion of the mysteries and excel.
infact in tantric arts and other traditions that use the power of sexual acts either in physical level or other wise the female is the positive partener astrally and any wise one will know that unless he lives in the bottom of a cupboard or something,
i absloutely apologize for spamming things here with wester traditional talk but i thought as the topic attracts people i could have a go at the hypocritic sexism in western Ceremonial traditions.
-PS just to round it all the soul is fucking Bisexual it contains the roots of both.
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Following thread that was started by me but locked by moderator is my reply :-
Kundalini Yogis & Yoginis Of India
I have come across many kundalini yogis, yoginis ( feminine of yogi in sanskrit ) and those who are combination of male & female in India. Some of them worship phallus & vagina, some worship skulls, some carry out weird practices in cremation grounds and still there are others who use wine, woman & animal-sacrifice for their occult activities. To flaunt their holiness to society, they besmear their nude bodies with ash & grow long beards.
Males invariably pry on gullible white flesh of West. Some of them are even gays & paedophiles.
Females are temptresses / seductresses. They grope on the genitals of their disciples under the pretension of awakening kundalini.
As for hermaphrodites, they indulge in all sorts of perversities.
Following thread that was started by me but locked by moderator is my reply :-
Kundalini Yogis & Yoginis Of India
I have come across many kundalini yogis, yoginis ( feminine of yogi in sanskrit ) and those who are combination of male & female in India. Some of them worship phallus & vagina, some worship skulls, some carry out weird practices in cremation grounds and still there are others who use wine, woman & animal-sacrifice for their occult activities. To flaunt their holiness to society, they besmear their nude bodies with ash & grow long beards.
Males invariably pry on gullible white flesh of West. Some of them are even gays & paedophiles.
Females are temptresses / seductresses. They grope on the genitals of their disciples under the pretension of awakening kundalini.
As for hermaphrodites, they indulge in all sorts of perversities.
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Original post: Solerus Silver
HO! hold there , and slow down, every tradition has many disadvantages but is this relevant to the topic ? how does this argue for the feminine right to be initiated without being used as harlots?
HO! hold there , and slow down, every tradition has many disadvantages but is this relevant to the topic ? how does this argue for the feminine right to be initiated without being used as harlots?
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Not only do you have to accept yourself,you must love yourself.Unconditional self of of all that you are & all that you are not......Which helps pull yourself back together perfectly from the 108 pieces to evolve or even the headless,bloody dreadlocked state.lol.
Tie me up & whip me baby!yeahhhhhhhh!You slay me Lady Hydralisk.
Hail the love of Parvati,mountain princess...Hail the Great Coyote/Jackal.
Not only do you have to accept yourself,you must love yourself.Unconditional self of of all that you are & all that you are not......Which helps pull yourself back together perfectly from the 108 pieces to evolve or even the headless,bloody dreadlocked state.lol.
Tie me up & whip me baby!yeahhhhhhhh!You slay me Lady Hydralisk.
Hail the love of Parvati,mountain princess...Hail the Great Coyote/Jackal.
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Original post: HaZe
"Man for God... and Woman for God in man"
Can't remember where it's from.. has something to do with the interaction of the sexes... the Lover and the Beloved...
"Man for God... and Woman for God in man"
Can't remember where it's from.. has something to do with the interaction of the sexes... the Lover and the Beloved...
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So ladies, once you enter the tantric arts and attain proper practice, you will notice that your energy levels will attract males and sometimes females to your aura. As a teenager you have this natural energy high which you lose gradually as you move further away from the sphere of childhood. With tantra you can retain a natural enthusiasm for life and have an eternal consort - The Absolute within you so you have no need for an outer love relationship if you do not wish for one, the same as any man. In essence you can retain your young energy forever with proper practice, instead of turning into a bitter empty shell.
Just as you see so many males flocking to this thread for female introduction to tantra, so you will find males inexorably drawn to your sphere without them realizing how or why such things are occuring. This is a law of the serpent's tail curving in on itself to reuinite whole macrocosm with microcosm, illustrated in this diagram:
The serpent represents the Absolute. The handle of the "sickle" shape represents the incarnated male in the realm of the physical, The Absolute made flesh in samsara, the world of lila. (theatre-play)
The blue represents the water of the abyss from which the adept tantrik female draw upon. the red and orange breathe of the serpent represents the force of the Absolute cast upon the tantrik adept (sorceress/source-eress)
The white line in the serpent represents Ain Soph Ur - a male must draw this into himself to be of any use to you at all. Don't bother giving your energy to lesser males they are devils and dwarfs and are of no consequence.
The female emerges from the pit of nothingness, or the pit of hate and despair, this is where eternal fire resides. You must come to understand the nature of hate and despair before you can reunite with the higher realms. So you see, it is most true, most absolute that females are the closest to god that anyone can ever get, because he never forsakes them. That is why The Absolute is the greatest ally any female can have - not any human being.
In tantra one must understand there is singularity - the being of oneness with everything - this is a state of solitude and there is no one else. The second state of being is the of duality, recognition of two contrasting elements. This is where we realize our femininity and her nature.
In truth the divine feminine is a project, the primary focus of the absolute. It is a consciousness exploration project for all that is and ever was. So in essence you could say that girls are #1 on god's mind. What this means is we are naturally gifted and sort of spoiled, why women are considered to be better at magic and so on, because we are the focus of the experiment and given all sorts of perks as long as we are doing what we are supposed to be doing.
So we saw with Siva that the primary purpose of Uma/Sati/Parvati the Mountain Princess is to contain Siva's energy - er, his penis. Siva's linga is the pillar of fire, destructive and powerful, to be contained it has to encounter eternal water or earth (this is apocalyptic) Siva is quite simple, Krsna is more complicated and I will explain it later.
You will find in your own being 4 male principles that split off from the primary Absolute - they are the elements, you are the fifth - Akasha!
durrrrr
ok gotta go work on myC.O.W. project.
look at all of the little boys trying to learn the secrets of the divine female....
hahahahaha
HADIT!
So ladies, once you enter the tantric arts and attain proper practice, you will notice that your energy levels will attract males and sometimes females to your aura. As a teenager you have this natural energy high which you lose gradually as you move further away from the sphere of childhood. With tantra you can retain a natural enthusiasm for life and have an eternal consort - The Absolute within you so you have no need for an outer love relationship if you do not wish for one, the same as any man. In essence you can retain your young energy forever with proper practice, instead of turning into a bitter empty shell.
Just as you see so many males flocking to this thread for female introduction to tantra, so you will find males inexorably drawn to your sphere without them realizing how or why such things are occuring. This is a law of the serpent's tail curving in on itself to reuinite whole macrocosm with microcosm, illustrated in this diagram:
The serpent represents the Absolute. The handle of the "sickle" shape represents the incarnated male in the realm of the physical, The Absolute made flesh in samsara, the world of lila. (theatre-play)
The blue represents the water of the abyss from which the adept tantrik female draw upon. the red and orange breathe of the serpent represents the force of the Absolute cast upon the tantrik adept (sorceress/source-eress)
The white line in the serpent represents Ain Soph Ur - a male must draw this into himself to be of any use to you at all. Don't bother giving your energy to lesser males they are devils and dwarfs and are of no consequence.
The female emerges from the pit of nothingness, or the pit of hate and despair, this is where eternal fire resides. You must come to understand the nature of hate and despair before you can reunite with the higher realms. So you see, it is most true, most absolute that females are the closest to god that anyone can ever get, because he never forsakes them. That is why The Absolute is the greatest ally any female can have - not any human being.
In tantra one must understand there is singularity - the being of oneness with everything - this is a state of solitude and there is no one else. The second state of being is the of duality, recognition of two contrasting elements. This is where we realize our femininity and her nature.
In truth the divine feminine is a project, the primary focus of the absolute. It is a consciousness exploration project for all that is and ever was. So in essence you could say that girls are #1 on god's mind. What this means is we are naturally gifted and sort of spoiled, why women are considered to be better at magic and so on, because we are the focus of the experiment and given all sorts of perks as long as we are doing what we are supposed to be doing.
So we saw with Siva that the primary purpose of Uma/Sati/Parvati the Mountain Princess is to contain Siva's energy - er, his penis. Siva's linga is the pillar of fire, destructive and powerful, to be contained it has to encounter eternal water or earth (this is apocalyptic) Siva is quite simple, Krsna is more complicated and I will explain it later.
You will find in your own being 4 male principles that split off from the primary Absolute - they are the elements, you are the fifth - Akasha!
durrrrr
ok gotta go work on myC.O.W. project.
look at all of the little boys trying to learn the secrets of the divine female....
hahahahaha
HADIT!
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Original post: LadyHydralisk
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only little boys are allowed into the girls room you're full grown get the hell out!!! godamnit this is a girl thread
no matter where I go you little brats are trying to get in my pants
::Darkwater;286437 wrote:Not only do you have to accept yourself,you must love yourself.Unconditional self of of all that you are & all that you are not......Which helps pull yourself back together perfectly from the 108 pieces to evolve or even the headless,bloody dreadlocked state.lol.
Tie me up & whip me baby!yeahhhhhhhh!You slay me Lady Hydralisk.
Hail the love of Parvati,mountain princess...Hail the Great Coyote/Jackal.
:::only little boys are allowed into the girls room you're full grown get the hell out!!! godamnit this is a girl thread
no matter where I go you little brats are trying to get in my pants
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Original post: Raal
OOIII!! fuck ya kali ma!!
looking fw to your krsna comments.
OOIII!! fuck ya kali ma!!
looking fw to your krsna comments.
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You don't count, K....Raal;286489 wrote:OOIII!! fuck ya kali ma!!
looking fw to your krsna comments.
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Original post: Raal
もちろん さ, "of coose, Im an eternal childe" haha. anyway everyone likes your explanation i think. No one should critizise a direct experience...
good graphic of the here/there, yes, I'm basically I like to be on the blue bottom there, but Im no jugler, Im a director, like david lynch sensei haha...I myself have no good language these days..but I can still read...recently I got stopped by a cop and saw two stars on his jacket (his degree or role play level like in the military), and I made the mistake to make a pleasnatry: I said: ahh- I see cop with two stars can not only write but also read!
jk
もちろん さ, "of coose, Im an eternal childe" haha. anyway everyone likes your explanation i think. No one should critizise a direct experience...
good graphic of the here/there, yes, I'm basically I like to be on the blue bottom there, but Im no jugler, Im a director, like david lynch sensei haha...I myself have no good language these days..but I can still read...recently I got stopped by a cop and saw two stars on his jacket (his degree or role play level like in the military), and I made the mistake to make a pleasnatry: I said: ahh- I see cop with two stars can not only write but also read!
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eternal children, play, play! see Lord Krishna is already trying to get out...
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eternal children, play, play! see Lord Krishna is already trying to get out...
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Original post: LadyHydralisk
rofl perfect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR7W-MU1rA
Good thing I know how to eat a whole god....
rofl perfect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cR7W-MU1rA
Good thing I know how to eat a whole god....
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Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja dude with extremely long name wrote:
[QUOTE] Lord Siva is actually most dear to Sri Krsna, and therefore Krsna can give him services which He cannot give anyone else. When the demigods and demons were churning the Milk Ocean in order to obtain the nectar of immortality, the first substance produced was a powerful and dangerous poison, burning the entire world. The demigods appealed to Sri Krsna, and He advised them to request Lord Siva to drink the poison. Thus, they worshiped Lord Siva and prayed, â??Please save us! Only you can protect us!â?Â
Tridandisvami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja dude with extremely long name wrote:
[QUOTE] Lord Siva is actually most dear to Sri Krsna, and therefore Krsna can give him services which He cannot give anyone else. When the demigods and demons were churning the Milk Ocean in order to obtain the nectar of immortality, the first substance produced was a powerful and dangerous poison, burning the entire world. The demigods appealed to Sri Krsna, and He advised them to request Lord Siva to drink the poison. Thus, they worshiped Lord Siva and prayed, â??Please save us! Only you can protect us!â?Â
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Following two sites are quite enlighteming on this subject
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(1) www.sacredsites.com/asia/india/sabarimala.html
(2) www.strippingthegurus.com
Following two sites are quite enlighteming on this subject
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(2) www.strippingthegurus.com
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The true tantrika asks for nothing. She only asks to serve, because she realizes this world is temporal -
siva would say, "the earth is useless"
krsna would say "the earth is ugly"
We do not see that, we go to the mall and try on luxurious clothes and think they are beautiful. They are only rags in comparison to the beauty of the paradise realms. Once we realize this, we never go back to enjoying life on earth fully - we yearn for paradise.
There is another factor, spoken of in Tibetan Buddhism. We sorrow for the souls (we realize, ourselves) trapped here in this hellish imagination. We see them trapped in a dark place, with no where to go. Siva sees struggle, Krsna sees sorrow. Both are merciful and benevolent lords.
There are many other gods to speak of, yet all are Siva and Vishnu. Preserver - the memories of the Absolute - and Destroyer - power of the Absolute extended.
So you can enter bhakti with any special name you like to tap into these forces.
Another personage you must be familiar with is Shesha Ananta. It is the force beyond worlds, beyond Brahma. It is the original creation force, what could be called "true Brahma". Without this the world could never exist. Crowley speaks of it in 777 and some of his other writings. Anata unites with Nuit, in his explorations.
Ananta is the great dragon beyond force and time. Beyond all that is and ever was. Without this power we would fall apart. It is reflected in the strings beyond molecular structure, and reflected in the shape of the universe, larger than the spinning discus wheel of mighty Vishnu.
It is said of Lord Krsna and Lord Siva that there are two types of mercy. One is false, the other is gold.
In Tantra, we attain the highest. Like Siva, we are content even in the darkest graveyard with fierce companions. Or like Krsna, we have on tap entire worlds of fantasy and imagination to entertain us at any time. We are not impressed by Maya - she is a filthy whore we are tired of.
We join Siva in his aim to destroy this world of Brahma.
There is a story about an avatar of Siva that came and descended into the world due to a part of Siva that had become dissatisfied with what was happening. When Siva becomes an avatar in this kind of a form, he drives girls crazy. it is simply too much - he is a master of reality so the parameters of Maya have no effect on him at all, he knows all of her secrets.
The world is not as it should be. It is more difficult for females to be liberated than it is for males, because males are not born a part of maya. We have to realize the power within us and cut down the false pretender to the throne that is all lesser goddesses. There is one greater than Siva - Kali
She is feared by all other gods, and even in Hinduism she is reviled. Just as there are warring masculine realities in this world, so there is the feminine at war with itself. That is the reason for suffering, the changing times wreak havoc on all. Kali will win, it is inevitable. Not even Siva can stand before her wrath. Yet, Kali herself is an emanation of Durga, a female - there is power in that, and the realization of coming from beyond this world is a task we must all, as females, recognize, without giving a shit about accursed Brahmins who tell us we must know our place.
Know this, then, woman, that for the same reason the world of man fears us, is because we will crush the weak, as surely as Siva stamps upon the dwarf of ignorance. Yet we bring with us the force of Sakti, and no one may stand before our divine power - it is written:
Serpents....need no one. Humans - you are far too needy.
All women are goddesses - our affairs are the matter of the great serpent. We know our ways better than any man - do not let others tell you what is right, female human - you must always listen to the great dragon within you, for only he knows the way through the darkness. Let no human tell you you are inferior, or that your way is wrong. In working the ways of magic, you are in the company of the most powerful goddesses who walk between the realms of sorrow, directly into paradise.
Sorrow cannot reach you within his coils. No one may afflict you or harm you if you follow the passage beyond the desert of Hermes. Total bliss. Unconditional love. True will and adornment of the senses with the bliss realization of all that is beyond Maya and her stinking corpse.
The true tantrika asks for nothing. She only asks to serve, because she realizes this world is temporal -
siva would say, "the earth is useless"
krsna would say "the earth is ugly"
We do not see that, we go to the mall and try on luxurious clothes and think they are beautiful. They are only rags in comparison to the beauty of the paradise realms. Once we realize this, we never go back to enjoying life on earth fully - we yearn for paradise.
There is another factor, spoken of in Tibetan Buddhism. We sorrow for the souls (we realize, ourselves) trapped here in this hellish imagination. We see them trapped in a dark place, with no where to go. Siva sees struggle, Krsna sees sorrow. Both are merciful and benevolent lords.
There are many other gods to speak of, yet all are Siva and Vishnu. Preserver - the memories of the Absolute - and Destroyer - power of the Absolute extended.
So you can enter bhakti with any special name you like to tap into these forces.
Another personage you must be familiar with is Shesha Ananta. It is the force beyond worlds, beyond Brahma. It is the original creation force, what could be called "true Brahma". Without this the world could never exist. Crowley speaks of it in 777 and some of his other writings. Anata unites with Nuit, in his explorations.
Ananta is the great dragon beyond force and time. Beyond all that is and ever was. Without this power we would fall apart. It is reflected in the strings beyond molecular structure, and reflected in the shape of the universe, larger than the spinning discus wheel of mighty Vishnu.
It is said of Lord Krsna and Lord Siva that there are two types of mercy. One is false, the other is gold.
In Tantra, we attain the highest. Like Siva, we are content even in the darkest graveyard with fierce companions. Or like Krsna, we have on tap entire worlds of fantasy and imagination to entertain us at any time. We are not impressed by Maya - she is a filthy whore we are tired of.
We join Siva in his aim to destroy this world of Brahma.
There is a story about an avatar of Siva that came and descended into the world due to a part of Siva that had become dissatisfied with what was happening. When Siva becomes an avatar in this kind of a form, he drives girls crazy. it is simply too much - he is a master of reality so the parameters of Maya have no effect on him at all, he knows all of her secrets.
The world is not as it should be. It is more difficult for females to be liberated than it is for males, because males are not born a part of maya. We have to realize the power within us and cut down the false pretender to the throne that is all lesser goddesses. There is one greater than Siva - Kali
She is feared by all other gods, and even in Hinduism she is reviled. Just as there are warring masculine realities in this world, so there is the feminine at war with itself. That is the reason for suffering, the changing times wreak havoc on all. Kali will win, it is inevitable. Not even Siva can stand before her wrath. Yet, Kali herself is an emanation of Durga, a female - there is power in that, and the realization of coming from beyond this world is a task we must all, as females, recognize, without giving a shit about accursed Brahmins who tell us we must know our place.
Know this, then, woman, that for the same reason the world of man fears us, is because we will crush the weak, as surely as Siva stamps upon the dwarf of ignorance. Yet we bring with us the force of Sakti, and no one may stand before our divine power - it is written:
Not even Brahma could break the eternal promise of the absolute, to his love, the divine feminine. You will never be apart, not even if there is falsity all around. You see, female human? This lot that Brahma has given us is the meaning of suffering. It has caused the horrors you see around you. The air itself killing children, the waters poisoned for the dolphins and the fish in the sea. We need no false god to tell us what to do, for our instruction comes from the very heart of darkness itself, the mind of the great serpent. What use have we for words of lessers, when we have the divine fire itself to speak to our hearts? This is why women are wild and rebellious, and why humanity seeks to restrain us. We are evolution, we are growth...we spell doom for the failures, it is always only a matter of time...The destroyer, the deity of wind, death, the nether regions, the equine mouth that roves through the ocean, vomiting ceaseless flames of fire, the sharpness of the razor, virulent poison, the snake and Fire- all these exist in a state of union in women.
These humans think they are above the animals around them, we protect our creatures by cutting out the rot at the heart of the disease, the rotting stench of a thousand burning forests and slaughterhouses crushed in the gaping maw of humanity - this is the demon we shall slay. No one may stand in our way, we are the divine mother. The nameless one stands by our side - humans yet only a grain of sand beneath his scales.Devasarman said: ��Women should always be protected by thee from temptations and opportunities of every kind. Amongst women both kinds are to be seen, that is, those that are virtuous and those that are not so. Those women that are virtuous are highly blessed. They are the mothers of the universe ( for they it is that cherish all creatures on every side).They it is, who uphold the earth with all her waters and forests.
Serpents....need no one. Humans - you are far too needy.
All women are goddesses - our affairs are the matter of the great serpent. We know our ways better than any man - do not let others tell you what is right, female human - you must always listen to the great dragon within you, for only he knows the way through the darkness. Let no human tell you you are inferior, or that your way is wrong. In working the ways of magic, you are in the company of the most powerful goddesses who walk between the realms of sorrow, directly into paradise.
Sorrow cannot reach you within his coils. No one may afflict you or harm you if you follow the passage beyond the desert of Hermes. Total bliss. Unconditional love. True will and adornment of the senses with the bliss realization of all that is beyond Maya and her stinking corpse.
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yes that is an excellent resource thank you, man
- Ramakrishna
hahahahaah!
RAWRRRR!!! Yeah Ma has you right where we want you!
durki;286590 wrote:Following two sites are quite enlighteming on this subject
(1) www.sacredsites.com/asia/india/sabarimala.html
(2) www.strippingthegurus.com
yes that is an excellent resource thank you, man
I am terribly scared of women.... I see them as a tigress coming to devour me. Besides, I see large pores [cf. vagina symbols] in their limbs. I find all of them as ogres....
- Ramakrishna
hahahahaah!
RAWRRRR!!! Yeah Ma has you right where we want you!
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Naomi Chan, your obsession with hindu mythology is understandable because of the ethnicity & geneology to which you belong. Funniest & surprising thing is that your obsession continues even after you became mother of a child.
Sorry for the personal touch.
Naomi Chan, your obsession with hindu mythology is understandable because of the ethnicity & geneology to which you belong. Funniest & surprising thing is that your obsession continues even after you became mother of a child.
Sorry for the personal touch.
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[Quote:Lady Hydralysk]In truth the divine feminine is a project, the primary focus of the absolute. It is a consciousness exploration project for all that is and ever was[/Quote]
Good to see/feel you Lady Hydralysk. Forgive this interuption as a natural consequence of the knowledge you manifest.
The purpose of the divine femine existing is to be found within the single post Amadeus wrote in the abrahadabra forum.
[Quote:Lady Hydralysk]In truth the divine feminine is a project, the primary focus of the absolute. It is a consciousness exploration project for all that is and ever was[/Quote]
Good to see/feel you Lady Hydralysk. Forgive this interuption as a natural consequence of the knowledge you manifest.
The purpose of the divine femine existing is to be found within the single post Amadeus wrote in the abrahadabra forum.
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I don't care about silly little krsna and siva, let them do what they want...
nom nom nom
The most productive part of this whole thread was summed up in Raal's reaction to my bloody alcoholic draught of scathing criticism...kids are cool.
I don't care about silly little krsna and siva, let them do what they want...
nom nom nom
The most productive part of this whole thread was summed up in Raal's reaction to my bloody alcoholic draught of scathing criticism...kids are cool.
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Tonight while I was gazing at the hall light, my mind shifted into realization of the eye of Ningishzidda looking at me. There was a Vishnuvian mantra playing downstairs and I spoke to Ng for a time, before the eye changed shape, the light wavering and flickering into someone else - Vishnu. His elegant and somewhat eerie eye gazed sublimely at me the same way an insect might regard a ball of clay - I had nothing to do but to bathe in the warmth of the divinities around me. (gosh Im spoiled rotten)
I noticed the eye had tears of light this time, flowing down in rays, unlike Ningishzidda's csilent and still serpent eye. It took on the appearance of a cat's eye.
He says to me
"what do you want with me child?"
"Nothing"
"I see you are having a wonderful time with life"
"Yes I am very happy....what is the meaning of life?"
"You are meant to serve. You will serve the will of Ningishzidda now. Yes - when you were little you served me in my realm, I never abandon my devotees so long as they abide by the rules of my realm."
"What laws are they?"
"To spread fortune, to not hang onto what I give to them. They must reveal it and share with the whole world. Then I will deliver mroe beauty and fortune through them to the entire planet. I will make them beautiful, and they will never want for anything really, save for what only my father has. So when you were a child even when you were in the most dire circumstances and things were rather desolate, was it not also beautiful?"
"Yes I remember, but there was a time when it was so strange and almost scary."
"Yes you were beginning to encounter Ningishzidda then, and his world is more alien than mine. It too,w as beautiful though, was it not? We must become adjusted even if we are not comfortable."
"Yes it was beautiful and strange."
"When devotees would see the blackness in me, they loved it, but that i what I received from my father, and he will always be in me. Beyond this world, there is more than man can imagine. You serve the one beyond, so you do not have anyone to turn to, without divinity. We are here for you."
"My Lord Vishnu..."
"No, you must not call me that any longer. You have only one Lord now. He is behind you, watching.. You will be fine. I am here to guide you from Wisdom into Understanding, you will pause in Da'ath - it will be lovely.You may address me as Lord VIshnu, or Lord Krishna, or simply lotus eyed one. it does not matter really."
and we talked about a great many other things, more interesting, but far less distributable. well....that is how you speak with god...
no earthly gurus needed.
Tonight while I was gazing at the hall light, my mind shifted into realization of the eye of Ningishzidda looking at me. There was a Vishnuvian mantra playing downstairs and I spoke to Ng for a time, before the eye changed shape, the light wavering and flickering into someone else - Vishnu. His elegant and somewhat eerie eye gazed sublimely at me the same way an insect might regard a ball of clay - I had nothing to do but to bathe in the warmth of the divinities around me. (gosh Im spoiled rotten)
I noticed the eye had tears of light this time, flowing down in rays, unlike Ningishzidda's csilent and still serpent eye. It took on the appearance of a cat's eye.
He says to me
"what do you want with me child?"
"Nothing"
"I see you are having a wonderful time with life"
"Yes I am very happy....what is the meaning of life?"
"You are meant to serve. You will serve the will of Ningishzidda now. Yes - when you were little you served me in my realm, I never abandon my devotees so long as they abide by the rules of my realm."
"What laws are they?"
"To spread fortune, to not hang onto what I give to them. They must reveal it and share with the whole world. Then I will deliver mroe beauty and fortune through them to the entire planet. I will make them beautiful, and they will never want for anything really, save for what only my father has. So when you were a child even when you were in the most dire circumstances and things were rather desolate, was it not also beautiful?"
"Yes I remember, but there was a time when it was so strange and almost scary."
"Yes you were beginning to encounter Ningishzidda then, and his world is more alien than mine. It too,w as beautiful though, was it not? We must become adjusted even if we are not comfortable."
"Yes it was beautiful and strange."
"When devotees would see the blackness in me, they loved it, but that i what I received from my father, and he will always be in me. Beyond this world, there is more than man can imagine. You serve the one beyond, so you do not have anyone to turn to, without divinity. We are here for you."
"My Lord Vishnu..."
"No, you must not call me that any longer. You have only one Lord now. He is behind you, watching.. You will be fine. I am here to guide you from Wisdom into Understanding, you will pause in Da'ath - it will be lovely.You may address me as Lord VIshnu, or Lord Krishna, or simply lotus eyed one. it does not matter really."
and we talked about a great many other things, more interesting, but far less distributable. well....that is how you speak with god...
no earthly gurus needed.
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Here is a very good article on the pursuit of alcohol, written by a male but he is a very good friend and has been at tantra his whole life, and was also three great kings in India, as well as a manifestation of the entirety of the sephiroth. You will know this teaching is true by the fact that it is written by a true aghori with no reciprocation, on the fly, and not some prancing little snot with a book to sell.
Here is a very good article on the pursuit of alcohol, written by a male but he is a very good friend and has been at tantra his whole life, and was also three great kings in India, as well as a manifestation of the entirety of the sephiroth. You will know this teaching is true by the fact that it is written by a true aghori with no reciprocation, on the fly, and not some prancing little snot with a book to sell.
And an article on Krishna, the avatar of Vishnu:Nath wrote:Do I?
If you are working to awaken your Kundalini and you try to do everything on your own, you only need to make one slip and you are gone; but if you worship and self-identify with a deity He or She will protect you when the energy becomes too strong for you to control. This is especially true if, like an Aghori, you are in a hurry to succeed, and you decide to practice dangerous sadhanas like Panchamakara. Meat, fish, wine, parched grain and sex are all intoxicants, and the purpose of intoxicants is to stimulate your nerves to be able to withstand the force of the Kundalini Sakti. You can use alcohol, sex and the rest to make fast spiritual progress only if you know how to use them properly; otherwise you just bind yourself down more tightly to the wheel of existence.
If you do choose to use them, you must never lose your presence of mind. Control is absolutely essential when you take intoxicants, no matter what anyone may tell you. If you hallucinate when you are intoxicated, it indicates that your system is not yet ready for that quantity of Sakti.
I had used intoxicants for many years, and only once did I fail to finish a ritual because of them. That happened when someone fed me a tremendous quantity of marijuana without my knowing it. By the time I realized what was going on and took steps to counteract the effect I had missed my time for worship. I had to start the whole ritual over again, and this time I refused to accept any food from anyone's hand. I completely it successfully.
Some years ago in a past couple incarnations some people tried to poison the ears of my mother and father, telling them I was an alcoholic and spent all my nights drinking. I was a drunkard, as anyone could see, but I was not an alcoholic; I am in perfect control of myself. So one evening I decided to demonstrate to my parents what I was doing with alcohol.
After dinner I produced a bottle of Scotch and a glass, and started to drink the Scotch, neat. My father was annoyed, but he didn't say anything; he just glowered. My mother wanted to tell me that it was wrong to drink, and whatnot, but then I announced, 'Now let us discuss the Upanishad.'
Now, the Vedas and the Upanishads were my father's pet subjects, and he used to take pride in his knowledge of them. But after I completed my discourse there were tears in his eyes, and he said, 'I never realized that you knew.' My mother said nothing at all, but the next time I visited them and we were sitting together after dinner she produced a bottle of Scotch and said, 'Here, son, take this and talk.' I'm proud that my parents appreciated my talks, and understood that I was not ruining myself with my drinking.
The reason I was not ruining myself with my drinking is that I performed a Soma Yaga, or Soma Sacrifice, when I drank.
The Soma Yaga has nothing to do with drinking the juice of some plant, although that external ritual still does exist in some places. I perform the Soma Yaga in quite a different way. When I drink alcohol I convert it into Soma with the help of a mantra. The mantra is necessary because Soma is full of Sattva and alcohol is full of Tamas. In addition to the karma of having crushed the life out of the yeast cells during the brew process there are also powerful curses which must first be removed from the alcohol before you drink it. Alcohol has been thrice cursed: by Brahma the Creator, by Lilith, and by the Lord Krishna Himself. If you drink without the proper mantra you will suffer from the effects of all three curses, and then you are sunk.
Alcohol develops Sattva when all the miserable little yeast cells who gave up their lives in the brewing process are given jnana(divine knowledge/wisdom). When this is done they enter my body and instead of perverting my consciousness they begin to dance for joy. Then both they and I get some benefit out of drinking. This is only possible if I offer the drink into the fire of the Bhuta Agni, so that it can reach the Mahavidya whom I worshipped and self-identified with(Tara in that incarnation, Bagalamukhi in this present one). This is the sacrifice part; the alcohol is sacrificed to Her, and She takes the prana that all the wretched little yeast cells contributed to the alcohol and then saves those cells. What do I mean by 'save'? I mean that She fills them with jnana, and makes them be born again in higher wombs. This process is entirely internal, which is the best way to perform a yajna. This is why the Tantras call wine 'Tara Dravamayi,' the 'Savioress Herself in Liquid Form.'
And how wonderful it is, to feel her Dancing within you! Intoxicants are wonderful - but you can't just start with these things directly; you must do plenty of sadhana first, to make sure that your control is strong. I will repeat this again and again: unless you know this process you should not drink, because sooner or later the curses will come upon you, the alcohol will start to drink you, and you will be finished.
My family belonged to the Pushti Marga, the spiritual path whose greatest exponent was Vallabhacharya, who lived more than five hundred years ago. Some people translate 'Pushti Marga' as 'Path of Prosperity,' and others as 'Path of Grace.' But when I think of pushti I remember a phrase from the Maha Mrytunjaya Mantra: surgandhim pushti vardhanam.
The Maha Mrytunjaya Mantra is addressed to Lord Siva, the God of Death. When you repeat it you are requesting Him to preserve your life and enhance your welfare. Vallabhacharya's philosophy is called Shuddha Advaita, 'Pure Non-duality,' and follows the principle of 'One-in-All, All-in-One." Vallabhacharya never taught people to run away from the world and become renunciates; he taught everyone to live a Vedic lif, to live in the world without becoming part of the world.
Most have only been exposed to the Advaita of Sankaracharya(another of my incarnations), and the proponents of that school want people to believe that theirs is the only Advaita Vedanta. They like to debate reality; it's only natural, since that is what Sankaracharya did his whole life long.
Sankaracharya taught 'Brhamam, sat, jagan mithya': while the Absolute Unmanifested is absolutely true, the cosmos, the Manifested, is mithya, false. But Vallabhacharya believed, as we Aghoris believe, that since God created the universe, and pervades it, the universe is as true as God is, which means that everything is true, since everything is part and parcel of God. Vallabhacharya did not care too much for debate; he preferred to spend his time worshipping Krishna and enjoying the bliss of the nectar of His sweet name and form. I like to call the Pushti Marga 'the Path of Sweetness,' because of the many sweet songs Vallabhacharya wrote, in Sanskrit, about his Beloved. Probably the most famous of Vallabhacharya's songs is the Madhura-ashtaka, the 'Eight Verses in Praise of the Lord's Sweetness.' Of all deities only Krishna is Madhu: pure, unalloyed sweetness. In fact, one of His names is Madhava, the 'Sweet One.'
There is a lot of esoteric meaning in the Pushti Marga doctrine, which makes it too complicated to explain easily. The Gaudiya Math, from which the Hare Krishnas develoed, teaches devotion to Krishna in His exoteric, external form, and rejects any kind of esoteric doctrine; this makes it easier to comprehend. The Pushti Marga believes both in the obvious and the hidden, and that is why I think it is superior, not just because I was born into it. If Westerners were to study Vallabhacharya's teachings they would really learn something about Advaita Vedanta, about the hidden meanings of Krishna's play, and about how to be sweet.
Krishna was something else entirely! You know, the word Krishna has two and a half syllables, and so does the word prema (romantic love). So it is only natural for Krishna's play to be full of prema. But He is no ordinary lover. In fact, He is a true thug; that's why He is called Chaliya, 'the Inconstant One.' He will play about with you when you worship Him. Some days He will be very close; other days you won't be able to find Him at all.
As He plays with you, you will be run through the wringer; you will ache with longing. When He finishes with His play you will be completely tired out. You will cry with all your being, "When are You coming to me?" When He does come He will catch hold of your hand and will never let go, not even through millions of births - except that there can't be millions of births for you once He has hold of your hand. Finally you reach the state of tadrupata - 'two hearts but one beat' - and then you are identical with Him, if that is what you want. But most devotees of Krishna never want to unite with Him; they always want to maintain their own identities so that they taste His sweetness over and over again, forever and ever.
Although He is Perfection Personified, Krishna still has to come to our world to play about. Do you know why? Because of His beloved, Radha. Why does the name Radha sound so sweet to the ear? Turn the word around and you get dhara, the power to hold or fix. In this case it is the power to hold Krishna in mind. Everyone who has perfect dharana of Krishna, whose mind is firmy fixed on Him, actually calls Krishna to them. He goes where He is called. The person who calls may not see or sense him, but Krishna plays about with such a person, and causes him or her to do so many things.
Krishna is called Perfection Personified because of a siddhi he had which was far beyond all ordinary siddhis. This siddhi is called 'Kartum, Akartum, Anyathakartum." Kartum: that which is difficult to do, but is doable. This refers to the adhibhautika, the mundane world. Akartum: that which is impossible for ordinary beings, which refers to the adhyatmika, the spiritual world. Anyathakartum: that which is beyond both the spiritual and the mundane and is inconceivable to humans, referring to the adhidaivika or astral world. This suggests that Lord Krishna has unlimited power in all three realms, which means in the entire cosmos. Krishna had only one fault: He had a habit of promising to do the impossible. He would set up a situation, promise to change it, and then change it - and no one would know what He had done. All the time this was going on He would stand to one side, admiring His own play.
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I will post more about what I know of the Supreme Absolute, and then on bhakti to Ningishzidda, since it is new to me and pleasing to speak of. I will not speak of other deities because I know nothing of them and it wouldn't be proper - but Siva and Vishnu are okay.
If any other females wish to speak their mind on Bhakti further that will be glorious, however after that I wish to move on to what kind of tantric practices we use to unite with godhead/The Absolute, or to expand consciousness.
I will not have men speaking on female behalf, my line in the sand is hard on this one. If you wish to cross it you may, though you will learn to regret it like a cur who steps into a tiger's den.
I will post more about what I know of the Supreme Absolute, and then on bhakti to Ningishzidda, since it is new to me and pleasing to speak of. I will not speak of other deities because I know nothing of them and it wouldn't be proper - but Siva and Vishnu are okay.
If any other females wish to speak their mind on Bhakti further that will be glorious, however after that I wish to move on to what kind of tantric practices we use to unite with godhead/The Absolute, or to expand consciousness.
I will not have men speaking on female behalf, my line in the sand is hard on this one. If you wish to cross it you may, though you will learn to regret it like a cur who steps into a tiger's den.
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I will address each of these individually in due course, right now I am so drunk I can't even think...
Your standard bhakti practice consists of the following:
Meditation - dwelling on the attributes of the aspect of divinity you have chosen, the symbols, colors or shapes of him (or her)
Dialogue - Speaking with the divinity - this comes at higher levels when one has developed a sound mind which most humans do not possess.
Sex - You engage in sexual intercourse with the divinity, uniting macrocosm with microcosm via the body of light and that sector of your brain or body.
Mantra - One of the highest forms of communication, intoning the proper name vocally while dreaming of the deity.
Dance/movement - Worship through activating the physical body - accelerating the heart and bloodflow to the organs.
Mental Acceleration - Exciting the Brain while invocating, allowing the deity to manifest in your experience of Maya.
Food/Drink - Not just intoxicants (I use very few - it is the first time I have had alcohol in about 3 months I think) This includes meat too, but more importantly it is a foxus on ingestion, what we put in our bodies. It is a study of the alchemy of internal digestion and how it relates to the BODY OF LIGHT.
Initiation - dedicating part of one's life to the divinity through promotion of spiritual insights garnered through the deity, or by expression of public display, such as worship or displaying the divinity's symbol.
Dedication - Full bhakti, surrendering one's life, possessions and all motion to the deity, this is the rarest and most difficult path.
I will address each of these individually in due course, right now I am so drunk I can't even think...
Your standard bhakti practice consists of the following:
Meditation - dwelling on the attributes of the aspect of divinity you have chosen, the symbols, colors or shapes of him (or her)
Dialogue - Speaking with the divinity - this comes at higher levels when one has developed a sound mind which most humans do not possess.
Sex - You engage in sexual intercourse with the divinity, uniting macrocosm with microcosm via the body of light and that sector of your brain or body.
Mantra - One of the highest forms of communication, intoning the proper name vocally while dreaming of the deity.
Dance/movement - Worship through activating the physical body - accelerating the heart and bloodflow to the organs.
Mental Acceleration - Exciting the Brain while invocating, allowing the deity to manifest in your experience of Maya.
Food/Drink - Not just intoxicants (I use very few - it is the first time I have had alcohol in about 3 months I think) This includes meat too, but more importantly it is a foxus on ingestion, what we put in our bodies. It is a study of the alchemy of internal digestion and how it relates to the BODY OF LIGHT.
Initiation - dedicating part of one's life to the divinity through promotion of spiritual insights garnered through the deity, or by expression of public display, such as worship or displaying the divinity's symbol.
Dedication - Full bhakti, surrendering one's life, possessions and all motion to the deity, this is the rarest and most difficult path.